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Can you call them Pro Life now? by punctual3 Can you call them Pro Life now? by punctual3
First of all, 99% of the time, no babies are killed during abortion. Most abortions are carried out when the fetus is just a non-sentient fetus. The few times when they happen during late-term pregnancies is to preserve the mother's life, or when the baby won't survive childbirth.

There are, however, loads of instances in which anti-abortionists have directly and indirectly killed actual people. There was that tragedy with Savita Halappanavar, who was refused abortion, and died as a result of a miscarriage: [link].

There have also been many accounts of anti-abortionists first-degree murdering/injuring doctors and bombing clinics/hospitals (just naming some examples):
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In addition, any attempt to illegalize abortions will just result in making abortions unsafe. Unsafe abortions kill 70,000 women a year. On top of that, an average of 300,000 women die from childbirth each year.

No one who values life would support any of this.
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Sassycat2 Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Pro-lifers have killed over 50 million people? 
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punctual3 Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014
If you're honestly making the implication that the number of deaths caused by abortion is anywhere near 50 million, I've already argued against the notion in the description.
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Sassycat2 Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
The idea that a non-sentient being is not a living being is illogical. If it's not dead, then it's alive. Therefore, when the child is aborted, there is a death. Every abortion ends in at least one person dying.

And yes, in the United States, since the Roe v. Wade trial, there have been over 50 million abortions. Therefore, 50 million deaths.

Abortion can cause the death of the mother as well, such as the death of Tonya Reeves. I do not support the death of anyone, neither the mother or the child. Abortion should be made available if the life of the mother is at stake, but only for that reason. You cannot argue that one life is more important than the other. Both are equal and deserve the same respect.

One who values life would not deal in such absolutes.
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punctual3 Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2014
"The idea that a non-sentient being is not a living being is illogical. If it's not dead, then it's alive."

So, by that logic, rocks are living things- you know, with them not being dead and all.  By the "logic" of your statement, if I were to smash a rock, it would be considered murder.

"Therefore, when the child is aborted, there is a death. Every abortion ends in at least one person dying."

If seeds are swallowed, there is deforestation.  Every swallowed seed ends in the destruction of at least one tree.

"Abortion can cause the death of the mother as well, such as the death of Tonya Reeves."

No medical procedure is 100% safe.  Though they're rare, non-aborational surgeries have also caused deaths. Does that mean we should stop doing those?

"Abortion should be made available if the life of the mother is at stake, but only for that reason."

No.  Abortion should be made available for any reason there is.

"You cannot argue that one life is more important than the other."

I can, and I will; my life is more important than that of a tapeworm.  Therefore, if I were to have one in my body, I have every right to remove it.

"One who values life would not deal in such absolutes."

What does that even mean?
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punctual3 Featured By Owner Edited 5 days ago
Sassycat2 left a wall of text in response to this comment, but since she took the cowardly way out and blocked me to avoid a response to it, she doesn't deserve to have her comment read by others, including me.
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Just4drawing Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Just want to throw out something, what if the baby was harming the woman? She should in my opinion have the right to abort the baby if it's a miscarriage. If it is hurting the woman (the baby) to the point she's dying, she should be able to abort. Here's an example: Example
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Adrianathekittylover Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I am pro life becuase abortion has lied to women by telling her  "her body her choice"
For me (that I am a woman) is a nice way to say "You are not strong enough to raise a child and be successful"

 frc.org/arguments
hopeafterabortion.com/
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SealyTheSeal Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014
Some woman just don't want children, and I don't want one either. Children =/= Success. I can still be successful without kids thank you.
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Adrianathekittylover Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
yes that is true, but if you are completely sure that you don't want kids, just castrate yourself (anti conceptive methods can fail) and live child free the rest of your life (and even if you repent later you just can adopt). My stament is that if a women gets pregnant, the say that they need to abort so they can continue with their lifes or studies is just not are a real reason:
1) Today there are many universities and schools that offers online degree programs so you can get your education during and after your pregnancy.
2) If you are 100% sure that you are not ready to be a parent, then adoption is a very sweet option. There are websites like this: www.adoptionnetwork.com/choose… or like this: www.lifelongadoptions.com/wait… were the birth mother can select the new adoptive family for their children. and the option of an open adoption or semi open adoption can help the birth mother too make sure that their kid is in good hands. You may help to complete a family, It may speak very good of you as a human beign.
3) Many women that have keep their kids at young age confessed that their kids have served as their "mottor that pushed them to achieved their dreams"
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